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Hi Sara
Thanks for the post. I know what you say is true. People keep telling me that it is not as bad as I think it is but yes you've guessed it, I don't believe them. I still don't know if I will make the party. I am completely exhausted at the moment. Everything seems such hard work. I don't know where this has come from. I have not been as down as this for a long time. Maybe it will go soon. I don't want to take any more drugs.
Thanks for caring
Love Sheila x
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Hi Jackie
I have wondered myself about the Royal Wedding because I was fine on friday and saturday then I just sank into a depression on Sunday. I can't stop thinking about the wedding and where they are now and what they will be doing in the future. I feel deprived because I can't continue the journey with them. I wouldn't have dared say that to anyone if you hadn't said it first. I wonder if the euphoria was so great on friday that everything now seems dull and uninteresting. I had been looking forward to the wedding for such a long time and now everything seems flat. Maybe it's a psychiatrist I need not a Rheumatologist!
Thanks for caring
Love Sheila x
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Hi Anne
I am so glad you enjoyed your holiday in Tenerife.
I am very interested to hear what you say about hair colour. I will call my hairdresser tomorrow and see what she says. I will feel better if I can have it coloured.
Do you know of anywhere that sells front fastening bras? I was amazed to discover that M & S have stopped selling them.
Thanks for caring
Love Sheila x
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Hi Sheila, Call Nras and ask to speak to a telephone counsellor, And cry as much as you need to, it does help. We have all been there and it does get better, it just takes time. Be strong and ask your doctor to consider anti depressants they can only make things better for you. ecitillipram is the most up to date one with the least side affects. I have been on them too ( when my house was destroyed by a flood years ago )  I thought it would never be the same again. But it was and I too was so much better. Take care Lorna x
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Hi Sheila
I'll have a look around for front fastening ones. There are some maternity bras that have clips at the front - and no doubt some for the 'elderly'!! I used to have some maternity ones - I presume it would mean looking among maternity wear. Mothercare doesn't exist round here... but I'm sure someone will be able to suggest something. I'll put a question up elsewhere about it.
Do check your hairdresser. Mine said hair falling out and going thin wouldn't be affected by hair colouring chemicals - and she's right so far (that's a year ago now!)
Take care. Anne x
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Hi Sheila Only just read your post and feel so sorry for you..(almost crying myself) as I know what your going through, thats the great thing about this site we've all been there and will probably go back there again! I really hope you go to the party Sat, as Paula said your friends want to see you regardless of the RA! Please consider the helpline again and NO you are definitely not pathetic Take care thinking of you Love Ceri xxx
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Hello Sheila
Hope you are feeling a little brighter today. Fingers crossed that you will be able to go to the party.
I think that we all think we know Prince William, we have watched him grow up right from being born. I remember when Diana died and I watched her funeral it was like a friend had died, never met her, yet it was like I knew her. Silly me I know but I couldn't help my feelings.
I know what you mean about not wanting to take anymore drugs. I get down sometimes and it crosses my mind about getting something but I just don't want to put any more meds into me.
Do ring up the helpline and ask about someone ringing you. It will be good for you to speak to someone who really understands how you are feeling.
Take Care
Love Paula xx
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Thanks you are all so lovely.
I am going to ring rheumatlogy tomorrow and ask for an urgent appointment. I have left a message for you on 'drugs' link asking for advice on what to take instead of mtx. I am such an idiot at the moment. I have had this for 9 years and have been very accepting of it until now. I don't know what has changed accept hair coming out, thyroid gone demented and mtx being reduced. Maybe that's enough to send me nuts.
Thank you all for your kindness. I wil let you know how I go on.
Love Sheila x
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Hi Sheila,
You are not going nuts! Sometimes we can trot along (metaphorically of course) on a fairly even keel and then just one more thing can send us over the edge. I find its a bit like being a teenager again and having a bit of a tantrum, yes I was that screaming child on the floor of M&S. Now for me this tantrum can come and go quite quickly or not depending on how I'm feeling in myself and how quickly I can come to terms with the thing which caused the tantrum.
I'm not surprised that your hair loss is the last straw. Although we don't like it when people say how well we look when we're in pain, equally its important to look 'normal' so we're not treated in a partronising way. Example, I was in a right old state the other night at my dance class and had to stop. A well meaning friend said oh why don't you try it in bare feet, I bit her head off I'm afraid, crunching around in bare feet was the last thing I should have done!
So your hair is part of the 'normal' you and grieving its loss is perfectly understandable. I'm sure there's another huge pile of drugs you can try out which don't have this side effect. I'm pretty new to all this but from what I can glean the MTX can stop being so efficient after a while and your body just starts protesting. Get that rheumy appointment as soon as you can and your crowning glory could well return better than ever!
Good luck Sheila Sara x
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Agree with others - it would be good if you could try to get to party and have a bit of a break. You need support of friends and family when feeling low. And have you thought of a hat? Not suggesting you do a Princess Beatrice as that one did seem a bit over the top, but there are the Kate type fascinators that could brighten you up. Or when I haven't the energy to wash my hair now I wear scarves, and there are some lovely ones that don't make me feel like an ancient crone from kids story book. And M&S still seem to do the front opening bras in their online store. Polly
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Hi guys
I rang rheumatology this morning. No nurses in at all today????? One might ring me tomorrow if I'm lucky. So, I took the bull by the horns and I rang NRAS helpline. I spoke to a lady called Gail who was wonderful. I was on the phone for ages and she never sounded like she wanted to get rid of me, on the contrary she was extremely friendly, helpful and made a lot of sense. She helped me tremendously and advised me to get an urgent appointment for today with my GP. She thought, as lots of you have said, that I might need 'something' to get me through the medication transition.
I rang for an urgent appointment with my doc for 5pm tonight. You are not going to believe what happened next.......I went in to the drs room, sat down and to save her time I explained quickly what had happened with drugs etc over the past 6 months and that I was depressed, I couldn't stop crying, didn't want to see anyone or go out etc. (it took all of 2 minutes) She wrote everything down then said to me that this is an urgent appointment slot. It isn't for discussing things that have been going on for the last 6 months. If she had let me finish she would have discovered that I wanted help for the last 5 days not 6 months. I only explained the med cases since Christmas to save her time so she wouldn't need to keep asking me questions and to help her to decide what to give me. I just stood up and said 'you obviously don't want to be bothered with me and I walked straight out.
I have just finished writing a letter to her. I am furious. I thought doctors were supposed to help not make things worse. She could see how upset I was. I can't believe the way I was treated because I chose the wrong appointment time. I didn't even want to go in the first place.
Now I feel worse. I wish I hadn't gone.
Love moaning minnie x
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Hi Sheila Really sorry to hear about the drs, that wasn't what you needed at all. The only dr that ever helps me is my own - the rest are hopeless!! It's probably worth phoning the Nurse helpline again tomorrow to remind them that you are still here! The other way to get a quick response is to phone your consultant's secretary. They are usually very helpful and can speak directly to your consultant. If it was me, I would do both, and then hopefully you'll get some help tomorrow rather than having to wait until Monday. Ringing the secretary's around 9 am is often a good time (I was one once!) - always worth offering to ring back in half an hour, rather than leaving a message with someone which may or may not get seen (or get buried under a sea of paperwork)! Have a list of things you want to ask in front of you. Tonight, try watching something on TV as a distraction after a warm bath or shower. I'd have a glass of wine too (even though I'm not supposed to!). Or chat to a friend on the phone if they are free. Hopefully tomorrow will be a better day for you. You have every sympathy and it's so hard being positive when we feel everything is stacked up against us. love Anne x  (couldn't find the smiley with the big hug)
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Hi Sheila,
I can't believe what happened to you at the GP's ! I think you should ring the practise manager tomorrow and explain what happened at your appointment. Tell her how bad you are feeling and you need help and need to see another doctor in the practise. Hopefully she will give you another appointment for tomorrow and you will get some help. It was disgraceful what that doctor said to you today. As you say, they are supposed to make things better, not worse and you have every right to complain about her.
Love Doreen xx
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Oh Sheila, just what you didnt need! I work in a GP surgery and cant imagine any of our drs treating a patient like that! I would take Anne's advice this evening and try and relax then tomorrow I would definitely put in a complaint to the practice manager and ask to see a different dr.. Really hope you get the help you deserve Sheila, things will get better, thinking of you Love Ceri xx
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ohhhh Shelia,
really sorry to hear of your awful appointment. i would do exactly what Anne has suggested, stress how urgently you feel you need help.
i'm glad you did phone NRAS i think i have spoken to Gail.
i would also phone your GP Surgery tomorrow i know you have written and speak to the Practice Manager and tell them how upset you are and could you see a differernt GP as urgent today.
i am wondering whether a course of Anti Depressants might help you, i had to bite the bullet and i now take them, i think they go hand in hand with a Chronic Condition.
we are all here for you but you must get some medical help tomorrow,
sending Hugs your way and please post tomorrow we are all thinking of you,
Suzanne x
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Oh Sheila,
Oh Sheila,
Oh Shiela,
One word DREADFUL
Cannot add more than the previous posts, def ring speak to the Practise Manager and let us know how you get on, you def do need to see a GP (but a different one) asap.
Hope you had a glass of wine and now gone to bed. I am in bed writing this, light off now though. Tomorrow is another day. Good luck
Rose
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Hi Sheila
I really can t add to the others posts about the dreadful treatment by your GP, absolutely disgusting !
I hope you have had a better day today, thinking of you.
Julia x
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Thanks all
Letter to Cruella was posted as soon as I got home. I suppose she won't get it until monday so expecting an apology on tuesday. If not another letter going to Practice Manager.
I am still in shock but actually feel a bit better today. Thanks for all your best wishes, they really help.
Love Sheila x
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P.S. I forgot to say that I have spoken to rheumy nurse today and she thinks it might be the mxt making me depressed. I have not to take it for 2 weeks and see if I improve.
Love Sheila x
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Glad your feeling bit better today Sheila it could well be the mtx or more than likely a combination of everything.. I started anti-depressants in Jan and they are helping take care and good luck with your GP surgery xx
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